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White knight lord · Aug 05, 2007, 09:51 PM // 21:51

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Originally Posted by T1Cybernetic

Haha, this will work, nudge nudge, wink wink!

I most likely gaurenteed that will not work GW is not WoW and thank goodness. Why add things to make another game that is alerady out there? GW is way better then WoW imo id rather sacrafice a noc then have GW get any closer to WoW.

Starsky-sama · Aug 05, 2007, 11:24 PM // 23:24

/imo.

Basically what was the point of GW having character creation and options of hair/hair color before you begin the game...if you could just fool around with it later on. (they would need to scrap that part of the system completely)

*You could always use "headgear" if your bored with showing/or looking at your current hairstyle. (vice versa).

*A Hairstylist npc would be a good gold sink for the game, but at this stage I do not see the point of altering our characters when we've worked so hard on them and created their own image/personalities which then sets them up nicely towards GW2. (ofcourse, speculating on link to GW2 if any.)

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lil-offtopic since it's suppose to be a "Hairstylists" thread but since others have commented on it in this thread already:

*Changing Face, Gender, Name. Again, this would scrap their whole system of character creation at start...simple as that...

*We all know these would all be easily abused. (Anet does want to clearly identify each players' characters as it is.)

*I do agree on the comment that by having these implemented suggests that ppl want to change the core of their character w/o doing all the work again from scratch. (imo that's what empty character slots are for)

*If these ideas were ever implemented, everyone would just go generic and skip to the name creation. ta-da! lol

/just-my-2-loonies-on-the-thread.

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/g'day.

GloryFox · Aug 06, 2007, 04:32 AM // 04:32

Honestly I wonder about posters like the one above me who believe that everyone should think and feel the way they do and to hell with people who want to make changes to things they did 2 years ago. (I digress to say much more least I become like them)

For PvP it’s easy to make a change on a character just take 3 minutes and remake one. You may simply apply any skills you want and go. The cost is zero IMO.

For PvE however I need to buy all my skills again over 125k depending on the character, buy all of my armor again, (15k sets in my case or 100k total for materials) Weapons again, that’s about another 40k and runes 20k, and not to mention I now have an incentive to keep my character because of birthday mini pets. That cost exceeds 285k to 300k plus the hours needed to grind sunspear points again when I could have been adventuring or farming. So another net loss of 100k re earning skills etc… that means a net loss of over 400k just for a f**ing hair change.

Remember PvE is all about the experience. Just as your favorit build changes so does your idea of what your character appears like. ANET please allow hair changes, create a better experience for PvE players.

SIDE NOTE: Now if ANET unlocked your PvE account with all of your unlocked skills like they do in PvP I would simply make a new character for better hair and a better name, unfortunately they don’t.

just rude · Aug 06, 2007, 04:37 AM // 04:37

changing your toons appearance is a minor thing, it should have been implemented earlier, its so client side with uber small pushes its crazy.

but w/e u think is wrong. LOL

Perfected Shadow · Aug 06, 2007, 09:12 AM // 09:12

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Originally Posted by Neriandal Freit

Why would you change your entire characters appearance? Honestly? That's creating a new character and still using the benefits of the old one.

Not cool.

So deleting all your char's achievements (with the exception of account based titles), equipment, etc just to be able to customize is cool? Again if you don't want to change your character's appearance would it hurt if others could?

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Originally Posted by Lady Lozza

I'm selfish. I don't want people walking around looking lilke my characters simply because their look has become the flavour of the month. I recreated my characters to look fairly unique, and I'd like it to stay that way. Certainly it means that certain armours don't look so great on my characters - the only reason that I've not bought Vabbian for my ele - but that doesn't bother me. I have a choice of other armour which does look very good on her.

I'm selfish, I want to be unique, and I'm not afraid to admit it. This is the reason I support a hair stylist and NOT a plastic surgeon or tanning salon. Hair stylist has the ability to ADD variety to the game, the other two will only detract from it.

My selfish attitude is not beside the point. It is the point. This is about something I want and something I don't want - not won't use - don't want to see ever.

You said you created your characters to be unique so how do you know, that if char customization is implemented, that people would start copying your look? And if some do, then you could change as well to be unique again

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Furthermore I'm thankful that very few (if any) share your views and are selfish to that extent.

The Sender · Aug 06, 2007, 09:56 AM // 09:56

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Originally Posted by LobsterMobster

Has Gaile confirmed or denied that there'll be a hair stylist NPC or some other way to change appearance? I know at one point a long time ago a dev said it was a good idea and they didn't see why they wouldn't be able to do it, and it is one of the most widely requested features. Maybe they're holding off to announce it as a surprise? *wishful thinking*

I haven't read the entire thread so someone may have already said this, but they said there's going to be more ways to customize your character. So that could be it.

lucifer_uk · Aug 06, 2007, 10:31 AM // 10:31

The way its been treated as hush hush, It makes me quietly excited about it coming soon. I would wait till GW:EN comes and if there isn't one then start pounding out this thread again.

Jongo River · Aug 06, 2007, 11:29 AM // 11:29

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Originally Posted by Starsky-sama

Basically what was the point of GW having character creation and options of hair/hair color before you begin the game...if you could just fool around with it later on. (they would need to scrap that part of the system completely)

Sorry, but absolute rubbish. If Anet allowed characters to be completely re-edited, it would obviously be via the current editor. Nothing would be scrapped. Even if changes were limited to a hair-stylist NPC, I still fail to see how you could consider that would make character creation redundant. It's like saying "some people are having cosmetic surgery, so I guess we can get rid of the maternity wards"...

In my view, the type of person who wants to edit their character, is probably the type of person who spent half an hour or more tinkering with options the first time, getting just the right look for how they wanted their character to be at the time. But now, 6...12...24 months later, is ready for something new, without the trauma of delete/re-start - and what on earth is wrong with that?

Cherrie · Aug 06, 2007, 11:51 AM // 11:51

I've said it numerous times... I'd love to have a hair stylist!
I've created my main character when only first Campaign was out, and played her quite hard... When Factions came out, I saw much more appealing hair style (and even much more appealing face...) but I didn't feel like playing xxx hours over again to reroll. With Nightfall hairstyles I feel like I want to change my characters hair even more, but since I have numerous hard-gained titles already, taht ain't likely to happen.

And about a plastic surgeon...
I do agree that the idea of people changing apperance all the time doesn't suit me much, but... other campaigns did add new gorgeous faces... How about, one face change per character? I know exactly which face I'd chose now, having all posible ones to chose from.

LobsterMobster · Aug 06, 2007, 12:55 PM // 12:55

The Sender, no one else had said that, so thank you.

It'd be cool if they put in a plastic surgeon and each time you visited them your selection of new faces would become more and more inhuman and creepy, until eventually you'd look like Michael Jackson.

Neriandal Freit · Aug 06, 2007, 01:43 PM // 13:43

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Originally Posted by Perfected Shadow

So deleting all your char's achievements (with the exception of account based titles), equipment, etc just to be able to customize is cool? Again if you don't want to change your character's appearance would it hurt if others could?

How did you get from my post that deleting equals customization? It was said as simply creating a new character yet, not doing anything with that new body and keeping those you've listed above. Things like that should have to be obtained on each character.

Now, unless your one of the Forgotten Realm Chosen (of any of the Gods that have them), this shouldn't be allowed by a long shot. Changing of hair, eye color, and other minor, minor things yes. But never to complete change your entire look. Cause if you do that, I think you should have to complete all the missions again!

It just shouldn't be an option. There are far more people who are seeking the color changing of Hair then anything else. I also presume it is safe to say that most of us true Guildwars Players are not wanting the option availability to completely change a characters appearance in such a way that he/she doesn't look like the person we created.

Mordakai · Aug 06, 2007, 02:00 PM // 14:00

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Originally Posted by Neriandal Freit

I also presume it is safe to say that most of us true Guildwars Players are not wanting the option availability to completely change a characters appearance in such a way that he/she doesn't look like the person we created.

Lets have a poll and find out.

This ain't D&D. We can change our attributes, our secondary profession, our armor...

Why can't we get a face-lift as well?

Make it cost lots of money so it won't be done all the time, and the original character creation will still mean something.

jesh · Aug 06, 2007, 02:17 PM // 14:17

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Originally Posted by pamelf

Girly, but hey, girls play this game too you know...

Hear ye, hear ye. Where's that dam npc.

I'd love to totally change character appearance. As for plastic surgery being unrealistic, don't forget that magic exists in the GW world. It wouldn't be cutting and stitching, just a wave of the wand.

My opinions on it as a "gold sink" aren't too high, though. The average player has less than 20k. I can't see it reasonably costing more than 1k to change everything. Preferably much less.

I think hair changes should cost the least, maybe 100-200g. Skin changes more.. 400g. And face changes the most, maybe 1k.
However, I'll take anything I can get. As other people have stated, I'd buy GW:EN just to change hair. Yeah.

I don't like the hat/wig idea. I want the same changes to be in effect if I actually decide to do something like.. oh.. I don't know. VENTURE OUT OF TOWN. Walking around with 0 armor just to look pretty isn't my idea of fun, especially since I find myself monking a lot.

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Originally Posted by Jongo River

In my view, the type of person who wants to edit their character, is probably the type of person who spent half an hour or more tinkering with options the first time, getting just the right look for how they wanted their character to be at the time. But now, 6...12...24 months later, is ready for something new, without the trauma of delete/re-start - and what on earth is wrong with that?

At least 2 hours.. for all 13.

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Originally Posted by pixiLated

I know from this thread that there are some that consider this to be superfluous to the game, but there are a hell of a lot of us who would really love this addition for the additional depth it would bring on many levels. And so long as there isn't the ability to alter your chars appearance ingame, I shall continue to add my voice to the voices of others that would like to see this addition too.

You don't want it, don't use it. But those of us that do want it will continue to ask for it.

I lub you.

Neriandal Freit · Aug 06, 2007, 02:23 PM // 14:23

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

Lets have a poll and find out.

This ain't D&D. We can change our attributes, our secondary profession, our armor...

Why can't we get a face-lift as well?

Make it cost lots of money so it won't be done all the time, and the original character creation will still mean something.

Any real poll created would have to be placed on the main GuildwarsGuru site, spanned across a few other Guildwar Forums (I only use this one, so I know others only use gwonline, etc.) for a accurate vote.

Not worth it.

If, if if if, they implement this, this would seriously have to cost twice the amount of FoW armor with an insane amount of materials, XP sacrafice (that would be a twist) and other things for it to be done.

MithranArkanere · Aug 06, 2007, 02:44 PM // 14:44

For hair change, it would be nice just paying 1k or something like that.

For hair dying, it would be funny having the NPC stylist asking you to get the dies yourself, hehe... black or white hair would be quite expensive... hehehe...
The NPC could chech the dyes you have in your inventory, and present the possible options that can be acquired with such dyes.

For body... that'a a different thing.
Heroes can have a secondary...
Can change that secondary...
He have seen their bodies 'burning' after defeating the Doppleganger...

Since many faces where added after many characters where created, it would be fair to give them a chance to use those faces.

Each character could have such a chance after their ascension... just once time.

Deleting a character will NEVER be an option. Anet wants people buying more slots, not deleting the characters we have. That's why miniatures are given to characters, and not to accounts.

A 2 years old character deserves more than being deleted.

jesh · Aug 06, 2007, 03:14 PM // 15:14

2x FoW cost? What a joke. It's a haircut for god's sake.

Neriandal Freit · Aug 06, 2007, 03:17 PM // 15:17

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Originally Posted by jesh

2x FoW cost? What a joke. It's a haircut for god's sake.

Did you not read that in response to an entire "Plastic Surgeon", or just presume that I mean 2x FoW Cost for hair?

Check the post again please.

jesh · Aug 06, 2007, 03:30 PM // 15:30

Skipped over the quote. I still think it's a bit much. How much do you think for hair/skin?

Jongo River · Aug 06, 2007, 03:33 PM // 15:33

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Originally Posted by Neriandal Freit

If, if if if, they implement this, this would seriously have to cost twice the amount of FoW armor with an insane amount of materials, XP sacrafice (that would be a twist) and other things for it to be done.

That's just crazy, appearance isn't an economy balancing issue. Or are you suggesting a penalty, simply because you resent the idea so much?

Take a deep breath and think carefully - exactly how will it affect *you* if, someone else gets to change the appearance of their character?

Starsky-sama · Aug 06, 2007, 04:05 PM // 16:05

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Originally Posted by GloryFox

Honestly I wonder about posters like the one above me who believe that everyone should think and feel the way they do and to hell with people who want to make changes to things they did 2 years ago. (I digress to say much more least I become like them)

woo ppl are touchy...and w/e words I use in the forums I have never pushed it on anyone....bcuz it is a forum...

Ill say it again in different words...I wouldnt mind a hairstylist. That is minor. /TheEnd.

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In my view, the type of person who wants to edit their character, is probably the type of person who spent half an hour or more tinkering with options the first time, getting just the right look for how they wanted their character to be at the time. But now, 6...12...24 months later, is ready for something new, without the trauma of delete/re-start - and what on earth is wrong with that?

Again, minor ones are no problem and would help spice up the game.
But total customization of existing characters (the major ones), using common sense, if Anet wanted the game to go that way, they would have already done it eons ago. As it is their system, and as it is already restrictive as it is, they have an understandable reason(s) for keeping it the way it is, which is to clearly keep track of players characters. simple as that.

I did make a slight forum oversight:(/doh on my part.

) I didnt add IMO everywhere when I usually do for all my posts, or I know someone will get offended...somehow.../weird.